Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lili Wang
While a sad affair, both victim, murder and crime appear non-notable. Is Wikipedia a news archive? Also appears in List_of_Chinese_Americans. Ianb 06:07, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Strong keep - Actually, yes Wikipedia is indeed a news archive. She is an important case study for the Asian American community, as can be seen here: [1] [2]. Fuzheado | Talk 06:18, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Unless that case study information is incorporated into the article, the article as it now stands is non-notable. Vote delete until such time as the article is made notable. RickK 06:24, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)
- I agree with RickK. Unless improvements are made to state the significance, delete. Average Earthman 14:46, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. --Gary D 23:37, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Just because something is tragic, that doesn't mean it belongs here. Delete. -- Cyrius|✎ 05:58, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Send to clean up with request for significance added. I remember the murder, but the article, as written, only contains the salacious story. The use of this case for the immigrant/J-visa community needs to be in the article to explain why this item is important in general. Geogre 01:27, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Delete unless article cites a lot of use as a case study. Unfortunate, but not that notable. Niteowlneils 01:34, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. If it was linked by even just one substantial (i.e., not a list) article, then I'd vote to keep, but by itself it's not notable. --Benc 09:51, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, agree with Fuzheado. ---Dittaeva 13:51, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Delete unless case study information is incorporated into the article. Elf-friend 17:25, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. I would not add articles to Wikipedia if I didn't believe they were significant. The case is significant because of the unusual motives of the killer. The case has become a rallying point for Asian-American activists, much like the Vincent Chin incident. There are numerous articles about Lili Wang all over the web - I just didn't add them because I'm aware Wikipedia is not a "link farm". Besides the links Fuzheado posted above, see also:
This is most definitely a notable case. -Mth
- comment: from the links provided I can't see any evidence of this being a "case study" or "rallying point". (the last link is in Chinese, which I can't comment on), only speculation on possible motives. Ianb 23:53, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- I still think this case is important enough to warrant an article. The Wikipedia standard for inclusion of biographies is that the person is mentioned in several other places, and this article meets that standard. I'm a neutral observer not involved in anything having to do with the Lili Wang case, but I thought it was interesting enough and that other people would find it interesting enough to deserve an article. The only articles I linked it to were "List of murders" and "List of Chinese Americans", so it's not like I'm trying to clutter up Wikipedia with my articles or shove it in the face of someone who's not interested. I linked it to "List of Chinese Americans" because I thought someone who is browsing that list is probably interested in Chinese-American issues and would be interested in knowing about the case.
If the Vincent Chin incident can have an article, then Lili Wang incident can most certainly have an article. But whether we should keep or delete articles of allegedly marginal significance is going to bring us back to the ages-old Deletionism vs. Inclusionism Wikipedia debate - something which has not been resolved yet. Frankly, if we can't decide whether to keep or delete, I say we should err on the side of caution and keep it. -Mth
- I still think this case is important enough to warrant an article. The Wikipedia standard for inclusion of biographies is that the person is mentioned in several other places, and this article meets that standard. I'm a neutral observer not involved in anything having to do with the Lili Wang case, but I thought it was interesting enough and that other people would find it interesting enough to deserve an article. The only articles I linked it to were "List of murders" and "List of Chinese Americans", so it's not like I'm trying to clutter up Wikipedia with my articles or shove it in the face of someone who's not interested. I linked it to "List of Chinese Americans" because I thought someone who is browsing that list is probably interested in Chinese-American issues and would be interested in knowing about the case.
- comment: from the links provided I can't see any evidence of this being a "case study" or "rallying point". (the last link is in Chinese, which I can't comment on), only speculation on possible motives. Ianb 23:53, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Delete—beyond the pale of notability. Postdlf 03:20, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
THIS DISCUSSION IS NOW CLOSED: 6 votes to delete 4 to keep. Deleted.