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Proposed merge of Womxn into Womyn

I propose merging Womxn into this article. I think the content in Womxn can easily be explained in the context of Womyn, and a merge would not cause any article-size or weighting problems. Yyannako (talk) 13:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose, unless given a broader-scope title like Alternative spellings of woman. Although they're conceptually similar terms, Womyn (and wimmin/wombyn/etc.) were popularized circa 70's within second-wave (particularly, trans-exclusionary/radical) feminist circles, whereas womxn only appeared in '10–'15 within third-wave (particularly, intersectional/trans-inclusive) feminist circles. The etymologies and time periods are different enough that I think two separate articles are warranted.
The comparative recency of womxn means it had its own separate backlash, with substantial RS coverage. At least based on the current references used, the RS's discussing the two terms also don't overlap significantly, so treating one as a sub-topic of the other (because they're both feminist respellings of woman) could be original research. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 04:27, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - as pointed out above by RoxySaunders, there appears to be a sufficient difference in the terms to warrant separate articles. As womxn is a relatively newer term, it appears to actually be on the rise to overtake womyn, at least in scholarly use since the 2020's - 3000 for womxn vs 1700 womyn. As for ngram, it appears the term womyn has been fairly stable, whereas womxn has shown a gradual steady rise since its inception around 2013ish (ngram only goes to 2019 right now, so we don't have a WP:CRYSTALBALL of course beyond that), but it appears to show that the terms are sufficiently different with womxn being on the rise, so if anything, it might very well be the modern WP:COMMONNAME if we were to entertain a merge, but I'd say for now, keeping them separate appears appropriate. Raladic (talk) 01:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support the alternative proposal for a joint page for the Womxn and Womyn. They share etymology and social context, so the pages if combined wouldn't be too long. So, merge for short text, context and overlap. The proposed Alternative spellings of woman might be OK, although the it's more than spelling, as the meaning changes too. Perhaps Alternative feminist spellings of 'women' conveys the social context more clearly, although I admit that WP:CONCISE would be a counteragument. Klbrain (talk) 08:40, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]