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Rotten Tomatoes info

@Beyond My Ken: All I did was:

Put a space in the plot description where it was necessary;
Move info related to Rotten Tomatoes up to the Critical response section so that all the info about RT would conveniently be in one spot;
Update the RT score; and
Remove a repeat of the RT consensus

I honestly don't see how that's not an improvement. We don't need the movie's status on Rotten Tomatoes in two different sections, and we certainly don't need the consensus stated twice. Songwaters (talk) 23:16, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that's not how it read to me, but I'll take your word for it. Self-reverting. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:40, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Songs/Actors. I'm actually reverting my own old, mistaken edit from May 2020 by removing the songs.

@Beyond My Ken: Regarding your PM, defending my choice on the Talk page. "Greatest musicals of all time" notwithstanding, the article is still clunky and hard to read now that the songs and cast are listed twice. And if you look back through the article's history you'll notice that it was actually me, in May of 2020, who put the songs in before I read WP:Filmplot on the subject. I had forgotten I did that until today, that's why I was going back and cleaning it up. They were not there for MANY years before May 2020. Furthermore, all the songs are now listed below, in their chronological order, and the actors and actresses and the characters they belong to are listed in the cast, so there now is no reason to have it stated twice. Also the word "Guideline" means rules, per your PM that "Guidelines aren't mandatory", and besides the plot wasn't just a little over 700 words, and the plot should be BETWEEN 4 and 7 hundred words. According to wordcounter.net it was a couple words shy of 800, FAR beyond what's acceptable. The information is already there, and in order, in an assigned and easy-to-find place in the article, so having it a second time in the plot summary itself it just gunks it up and makes it far longer and more difficult to read than necessary and is super redundant now. Not reverting it myself since someone might call "Edit war", but if you or anyone else thinks about it objectively for a moment you'll put the plot summary back the way it was before May 2020. Or the way I just edited it. THanks! EEBuchanan (talk) 20:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding song names in the plot, FILMPLOT is silent. I have seen song names inserted parenthetically in the synopsis of many musical playbills, so it's a longstanding stylistic convention, predating Wikipedia by many years. Binksternet (talk) 23:41, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actors off set?

In this article, I think it’d be rather interesting if the author was to put the connection and what the actors acted towards each other not on the set. I do know, and I think any crazy fan of singing in the rain knows Gene Kelly disliked Debbie Reynolds, but it would be cool to know how Donald O’Connect treated everybody, and even Jean Hagen: 2603:7081:6901:9C3A:C484:5B86:C34F:617F (talk) 00:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We only include in articles what we have reliable sources to support, regardless of how "cool" it would be to include it. If you have sources for any information of the sort you indicate, please post them here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:04, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Singin’ in the rain commentary, which has all the actors speaking, and the directors: trustworthy source, could add a bit more spunk to this article. Also, if you search up a certain actor, you will find interviews that the actors read talking about the movie, also very trustworthy. 2603:7081:6901:9C3A:2086:6527:749D:73B9 (talk) 15:22, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Uncredited characters

Also, the person talking to Donald O’Connor in the beginning, saying if he could get her in the movies- Gwendolyn Carter, also his wife. That’s the only other uncredited person I can think of, and holds somewhat of interest, being his wife and all. 2603:7081:6901:9C3A:2086:6527:749D:73B9 (talk) 15:29, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not the AFI's film catalog - we do not list each and every actor in a film. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:35, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn’t however, in my brief, unimportant comment, expressing an uncontrollable desire to see every uncredited personage within the film, simply suggested listing her, for the mere reason it may hold some interest to other readers, for she was his wife, and, her brief discourse with Cosmo, was her struggle, and, in certain accounts, led to the downfall of Donald and Gwendolyn’s marriage. I only suggest this for the article, as meekly as it is possible for me to, for that might hold interest to other persons. 2603:7081:6901:9C3A:F9C1:D163:8A70:507D (talk) 02:11, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for seeming dreadful rude at all in my comments- I do not mean to seem so. I do apologize for being a nuisance- forgive me for at all seeming so. 2603:7081:6901:9C3A:F9C1:D163:8A70:507D (talk) 02:21, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]