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Other species found in Texas are Lupinus concinnus, Lupinus perennis and Lupinus plattensis- are these also called bluebonnets?--nixie 06:26, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

how do bluebonnets make seeds? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.241.145.69 (talk) 02:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What's with the landscaping tips?

Shouldn't this article be about the flower and not how to beautify your yard? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sm5574 (talk • contribs) 15:16, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What's this about Iowa?

"On March 7, 1901, Lupinus subcarnosus (also known as Buffalo clover) became the only species of bluebonnet recognized as the state flower of Iowa. "

This is the only mention of Iowa in the middle of a discussion of the Texas state flower. Should it say Texas instead?

Chris Zable 75.17.49.190 (talk) 16:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

It seems like Bluebonnet should link to Bluebonnet (disambiguation) as the term means so many different things in different parts of the world.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 16:51, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is absolutely true. I think the article should be merged with the one on Lupinus texensis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antrodemus (talk • contribs) 14:05, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Photo gallery

I know we Texans love our bluebonnet pictures, but there were, and probably still are, too many photos here. So, I removed several either redundant, marginal-quality, or irrelevant photos in a small attempt to improve the article. —DoRD (talk) 01:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the following discussion from ANI (permalink) shows a current consensus to not include Hubie in the flowers. I'm removing the photo from the gallery, as it has been re-added. Please do not re-add the photo unless a consensus forms in the other direction; ~~doing so against a current consensus is disruptive~~ (sorry, that reads more aggressive than intended. It's true, but probably didn't need to say it like that). --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: The photo in question

Copy of discussion on ANI

There's a minor edit war going on in this article. One user continues to post what is apparently a personal photo in the gallery. Another, possibly someone that knows the poster, keeps reverting it. What is the rule here? The photo illustrates the Texas tradition of photograpping people sitting in the bluebonnets. Is there any reason a personal photo shouldn't be allowed? In short, who's in the "right" in this edit skirmish? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:55, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Has that file even been uploaded? I'm not seeing it. —DoRD (talk) 01:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oh, after reading the file name again, I'll add that Jeff Pruitt is a professional photog in Arlington, Texas, so the photo will almost certainly be a copyvio.~~ —DoRD (talk) 01:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Photo was recently deleted on Commons. Link removed. I suppose my Admin contract says I'm supposed to sternly warn both parties about edit warring, but I think I'll choose to laugh at them instead. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:14, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- My assumption is it's a couple of junior high schoolers bickering. I would still like to know, though - if there is no copyright issue involved, is there any rule against uploading a personal photo? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

all article content needs to be relevant to the subject. It seems from the description that it's rather doubtful it is. There seems to be at least one other irrelevant picture also, the one of a dog. DGG ( talk ) 01:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The subject is the bluebonnet flower, and the dog is amongst the bluebonnets. Although it does seem to be more about the dog. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As it is the state flower of Texas, and it is longstanding tradition in Texas to photograph one's children surrounded by Bluebonnets, I think that such a photo would be acceptable if the article included some sourced explanation of the tradition. A better photograph, however, would be a photograph of a photographer taking a photo of said children. I agree that the dog is simply fluff, though. —DoRD (talk) 01:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so a photo of a non-notable person who's identified by name is not an issue? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:02, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, I wouldn't say that. I was thinking more along the lines of a generic photo of an unnamed photog taking a photo of some random family's children sitting in a typical field of bluebonnets. —DoRD (talk) 02:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reasons why I have been involved in this "edit war" is pretty much what you have discussed as far as the photo goes. At first it was merely a nuisance. While I agree with Floquenbeam that it was a bit laughable, but I would have appreciated some guidance in the proper procedures before it got to the point that it did. In fact, I had also asked WhisperToMe some guidance, but I erroneously thought that was my only recourse was to put it up for deletion. When I tried to nominate the file, it was simply ignored. You can see this has been a long series of errors, and misjudgments. It was only after I saw the link to this "Debate" that I hope this gets resolved properly. So much for the "Stern warning" and see my overall body of edits as opposed to this minor incident. --Hourick (talk) 03:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It often takes a very, very long time for image deletion requests on Commons to be decided. WhisperToMe (talk) 10:40, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you feel strongly about this, feel free to make the case for inclusion here. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, yes I do. First off sorry if I have caused anyone any headaches over this as that was not my intention. A year a ago I came across the bluebonnet page because I was interested in planting some and did not know how or when. When I got to the bottom of the article I noticed the picture of the Yorkie in bluebonnets and realized that there was no photograph of a person in bluebonnets. I saw relevance as it is a Texas tradition to take pictures in bluebonnets and uploaded my picture. Weeks went by and it wasn't deleted and I figured it was a win win for us because viewers get a piece of Texas traditions and I get my picture on Wikipedia. After weeks turned into a year I figured everything was ok. Then all of a sudden it gets deleted because some now find it irrelevant. I am fine not posting it again on this page if that is the consensus. Can I post it to the Texas Bluebonnet page instead? I see the need for this information to be posted and I want to claim it! Please let me post my picture to the history books! Thank you for your time. --HappyHubie415 (talk) 13:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The main concern about it at ANI seemed to be the copyright question. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe another concern mentioned by two people was that the photo is mostly about the person, not really about the bluebonnets. I note that the photo of the dog in the bluebonnets has also been removed. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:12, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I forgot to address the copyright issue. The Jeff Pruitt who took the picture is not a professional photographer. He just happens to have the same name as the photographer from Arlington, Texas. So the copyright issue should not be a problem. --HappyHubie415 (talk) 14:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.92.228.62 (talk) [reply]

Is it really against the law to pick Bluebonnets in Texas??

Tanny 4/14/13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.17.246.134 (talk) 17:34, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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