Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/(IDNIYRA)

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The result of the debate was - renamed and kept - SimonP 18:57, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

(IDNIYRA)

This page was tagged with vfd by an anon who never created the subpage. Then another anon came along and created the subpage with the vote you see below, but it was never listed. My vote is that if this is notable it should be moved to its proper name. --Dmcdevit 00:20, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My vote: keep

The IDNIYRA is the largest iceboating organization in the world, that fact alone should be adequate to retain the page.

Cheers,

Geoff S. - DN US-5156

198.7.47.200 21:50, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Could you add that distinguishing feature, and cite some documenting source, to the article? That would make editors more likely to keep the page. Barno 03:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: If the article is improved to establish notability and gets kept, it should be moved to the same thing without the parentheses. Barno 03:11, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think that anon will be doing any editing. His/her only edits ever were to make this vote. --Dmcdevit 04:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Of course there's a small chance that this is the trigger that gets Geoff S. to register and become a valued editor, starting with improvements to this article. I suspect most people come to WP because some reference sends them to an article about a topic that interests them, not because they're looking for some collaborative project on which to volunteer excess time. Barno 20:00, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, notability not established. Megan1967 05:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Recommend moving to IDNIYRA. This is an international ice boat racing organization, and holds regular competitions. A North American regatta they organised in 2002 had around 90 ice boats. DN (Detroit News) is a design of ice boat originally designed in 1936. IDNIYRA was formed in 1953. Not just some guy and his mates who race sleds when the lake freezes over. I do not have time to do my usual cleanup, but I've appended an external link that tells most of the story. If cleanup people would just do a brief google search every now and then we wouldn't have so many of these timewasting VfDs and I would be able to spend a *lot* more time editing other articles instead of saving perfectly good stubs from the scrapheap. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and Move to International Detroit News Ice Yacht Racing Association, article names shouldn't start with punctuatuon. Klonimus
Keep and Move to IDNIYRA --Canderson7 20:25, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
Keep, and as stated above, move to IDNIYRA -- The Anome 23:38, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
Keep and move to International Detroit News Ice Yacht Racing Association, I was the nominator, but I never really made a vote. For all you that said move to IDNIYRA, see Wikipedia:Naming#Prefer_spelled-out_phrases_to_acronyms, we don't name with acronyms. --Dmcdevit 00:20, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree with that policy and note that the organisation is "almost exclusively known only by its acronym and is widely known and used in that form". --Tony Sidaway|Talk 00:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Good stub. Move to International Detroit News Ice Yacht Racing Association, with a redirect from IDNIYRA; If the redirect is done the other way around no big deal, it just requires a little rephrasing of the introduction. But I'd use the full title for the article name even if the acronym is more widely known, unless the full title has been legally abolished (as it has with SIL International for example) in which case we should use the acronym and explain the situation in the article. Andrewa 00:58, 9 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, move to International Detroit News Ice Yacht Racing Association, redirect from IDNIYRA, per Dmcdevit and Andrewa. -- BDAbramson ^thimk 07:58, 2005 May 9 (UTC)

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