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"alphabetically by programme" is unnecessary. I'm moving this page to List of manned space missions. --Jiang 04:32, 20 Oct 2003 (UTC)

What to do with mission descriptions on this page?

I see that brief mission descriptions have been added for some of these flights. I was planning to start filling in a few more, but taking this to its logical conclusion I would simply be replicating all the information at List of human spaceflights - which seems kind of pointless. What's the view on this? In the interests of avoiding duplication would it be better to remove the flight descriptions here (making sure all info was already at List of human spaceflights) and then just have a plain list of missions here, referring people to List of human spaceflights (and of course the detailed articles about the missions, which are already linked) for further information?

Or maybe just retain the really salient information here (such as first US manned orbital flight, first moon manding etc.) and relegate everything else to the other articles?

Any thoughts?

Matt 19:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I would like to take a swing at this article

I have a number of points on which I would like to improve this article:

Individual spaceflights should not be listed. There is already an article for that. There should also not be a redirect from 'list of human spaceflights by program'

More description on each one. There is a lot more that can be said about, for instance, the Soyuz program beyond a list of Soyuz flights the editors consider interesting.

More pictures - space travel is a very visual thing and there are plenty of pictures in the public domain that could be used to give the reader a break from the considerable amount of text here.

More up to date information. The space stations section for instance doesn't list quite mature plans for space stations by Bigelow Aerospace and the Chinese space agency.

So long as I am not stepping on anyones toes by making big modifications here, I will proceed shortly GrampaScience (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looking just now I've seen no recent activity or interest in this article, so I may as well begin immediately. GrampaScience (talk) 17:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger

It has been proposed (by this anon) to merge List of manned spacecraft into this list. I think the two topics are closely related, but not identical; I think there would be value in having two separate lists. So I'm against the merger; unless anyone objects, I'll remove the merge tags. Mlm42 (talk) 23:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the tags. Mlm42 (talk) 17:28, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Non-surface launched human spaceflight programmes

Given the inclusion of TKS, which has never carried humans from the surface, and space station programmes, I'm thinking of including 'unmanned' manned spacecraft - i.e. ATV, H-II, Dragon and Progress.

This is going to put a squeeze on space, but I think its important. I suggest getting rid of the ones that are 'in development' were cancelled (or putting them in a seperate argument) and putting information about Progress in the Soyuz section as they are virtually identical, and merging Dragon into the CCDev/COTS section as it is the only demonstrated vehicle that has come out of that.

Real manned space programs are always outnumbered by aerospace industry hot air and paper projects. We can keep this article the right size by only listing craft that have actually, you know, been built and sent into space.

If no objections, I will proceed with this shortly. GrampaScience (talk) 16:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vostok not shown?

Why there is a Mercury spacecraft shown here, which was a suborbital flight, and Gagarin's Vostok spacecraft not? That makes no sense, and is in-fact a bit ridiculous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.17.14.17 (talk) 20:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Manned Spaceflight Engineer Program not shown?

Members of the Manned Spaceflight Engineer Program not shown.204.238.227.14 (talk) 13:45, 26 May 2015 (UTC)Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).[reply]

When did the Soyuz program began?

On the Soyuz program section on this article it says that the program began in "1913", now I don't know about anyone else but that sounds a little too early as not even the USSR existed yet. So can someone fix it with the right year. Sion8 (talk) 01:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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SpaceX’ BFR is missing

BFR (rocket) should be added, either as part of the existing Dragon 2 section (then a general SpaceX section) or as separate section. —mfb (talk) 02:03, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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