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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was - deleted - SimonP 19:59, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Saleel

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More vanity. Is it really that hard to understand that personal Wikipedia articles aren't allowed? No notability; yes, he seems to run a website, but who doesn't these days? Delete. Ridethefire3211 19:13, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Err... I don't.Irishpunktom\talk 11:23, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
  • Mistitled vanity. Delete. Mgm|(talk) 19:36, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
The article has improved since I voted and now it's about the website it's no longer mistitled. I retract my vote and abstain. Mgm|(talk) 18:42, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete - David Gerard 20:10, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete No sign of notability, probable vanity. Alai 20:28, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Non notable. --Ragib 20:52, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Nn. vlad_mv 22:05, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, not notable, vanity. Megan1967 09:45, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable person. His projects on the web have been influential in the lives of huge numbers of people (and he didn't create the entry himself) HussaynKhariq 10:28, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Articles don't have to be written by the subject themselves to be vanity. If you want to change people's mind about this article, please add references to it and make sure both first and last name are used in the title according to Wikipedia's naming conventions. Mgm|(talk) 10:43, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)
  • Must Keep, Most notable personality. Maybe not by you but definately amongst the thousands of web surfers for his excellent project management, resource management and his community outreach efforts. We need more Saleels!!! Haqq 12:28, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Note: User's first edit. --Carnildo 04:36, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep His projects really have affected the lives of many and he is well known in various circles. And it's only 2 lines anyway. --Ehguy 03:27, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Note: User's first edit. --Carnildo 04:36, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • keep a promising young doctor who has saved many lives and continues to do humanitarian work at home and abroad.-smrtengineer
    • Note: user's second edit, the first was to this talk page. DaveTheRed 18:23, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • keep A humble and nice person, doing great work for soceity.
  • Deserves a keep.-MangoIceCream
    • Note: User's first edit. DaveTheRed 18:23, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • keep Saleels website Sunniforum.com is one of the largest growing websites on the web for Islam with a wide range of support from Islamic scholars. Soon, it will probably be the largest Forum on the web! This is a definite keep. No vanity since the author did not put this up on his own. - Salman
    • Note: user's first edit. DaveTheRed 18:23, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • KEEP IT! This guy has done some excellent work for the all of us. Sad that people can't see what effort he puts into all his work. A true legend that all gradfathers will undoubtly talk about to their gradnchildren. Keep this Wiki... nice work Saleel!
  • Delete - obvious vanity Trampled 11:24, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, Google mostly reports blog and chat entries, little else. GorristerGorrister 11:09, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • keep i think we should definitely keep this link. i have vastly improved my knowledge of the wonderfully varied world of Islam and Muslim peoples after reading some excellent thought-provoking material on his websites. We need to encourage more of this type of stuff from these youngsters at a time when many are being driven into despair and hatred of our culture through the actions of our very own war-mongering politicians. His articles are a breath of fresh air. i also thoroughly recommend everyone to sample some of the audio links on his site. the 'Nasheeds' songs he has contained therein are certainly unique and really put one's body under strain when trying to move to them. If this is traditional Islamic culture then i want more of this! Well done to Wikipedia for allowing entries like this to exist. They have certainly changed my life for the better and i will forever be indebted to Mr. Saleel for my improved understanding and music collection!--Aloo Paratha 11:37, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Note: Another first time editor. I'm seeing a pattern ;) Trampled 11:56, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:28, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable vanity. Sockpuppets, begone! DaveTheRed 18:23, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Lucky 6.9 smells socks. To Lucky 6.9, socks and vanity equal delete. - Lucky 6.9 02:04, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - He's done a lot, His Websites are significantly large and important. They should be expanded to include more detailed information on his sites. Like the Segregation of "Bros" and "Sis'", the volumes of nasheeds and poetry!, The open dialogue between Zionists, Jews, Christians and Muslims.. Oh, yeah ... This is Not my first Edit! --Irishpunktom\talk 11:22, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Vanity, sockpuppet supported. Jayjg (talk) 17:36, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • I dislike your personal attack Jayjg. Apart from being uncalled for it is a blatent lie. --Irishpunktom\talk 21:51, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
      • I wasn't referring to you Tom, but rather to the many "first edit" voters here. I'm one of quite a few editors here who have noticed the sockpuppets; were they all also "personally attacking" you and "blatantly lying"? Jayjg (talk) 22:09, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
        • They all posted before me, whereas you posted after me. If you are going to attack someone the least even you could do is name them. How exactly do you know these are sockpuppets and not IP editors who regged just to save Saleel --Irishpunktom\talk 22:42, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
          • I haven't attacked anyone, yes they all posted before you, and what exactly is your point? As for whether or not they are sockpuppets, or they simply happened to be anonymous Wikipedia editors who all happened upon the article at the same time, and all happened to decide to register for the very first time so that they could vote, Occam's Razor provides the answer. Jayjg (talk) 22:49, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
            • My "point" is that,in reponse your query "were they all also "personally attacking" you and "blatantly lying"? ", they were not making a personal attack on me - I hadn't even posted here, or made the changes to the article yet - wheras you were (Yet again). It's also worth noting that this is yet another Muslim-Based article that you wish to remove.. another 'trend' apparent. --Irishpunktom\talk 14:00, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
              • One "trend" I see here is that only you and a bunch of sockpuppets want to keep this article, and everyone else voting sees that it is not notable. The second "trend" I see is that you have looked at my contributions, and then deliberately voted the opposite way I voted on all recent VfDs (e.g. [1]), along with reverting my recent edits or reversions (e.g. [2]). The final "trend" I see is for you to support vanity articles relating to Muslims, making all sorts of claims about notability which you refuse to back up with evidence; for example, [3]
  • Delete. Spam and vanity supported by probable sockpuppets --Neigel von Teighen 22:47, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Sockpuuppets?--Eliezer 00:41, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. If only this chap could persuade all these sock puppets to post regularly on his website! It's like a ghost town. Few of the posts I looked at had any comments at all. None of the comments I saw were recent. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:45, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Vanity piece and non-notable; and as Tony says, the website itself doesn't seem to be used much. SlimVirgin 17:28, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete per all the above non-socks. Davenbelle 17:52, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non notable and vanity. Clearly not an international authority. Tiller1 21:00, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. My personal three-sockpuppet limit has been reached. Any article which can't stand on its own merits but relies on sockpuppet votes to keep it going doesn't deserve keeping. RickK 21:50, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Vanity cubed. With sockpuppets. Edeans 04:14, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Ignore the sockpuppets, vanity advertisement Fawcett5 22:59, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Saleel says DELETE. This is Saleel. This page is useless and serves no purpose. There is no need for it and it is not useful as an addition to Wikipedia. Please DELETE it. Saleel
  • Comment - There are no sockpuppets AFAIK. I made an appeal on Sunniforum for people to vote to keep the article (with the idea that many people on sunniforum were long time wikipedia users as well) because I truly believe that Saleel is a notable person. Instead of the vetern wikipedians voting as I expected, lots of people decided to register and make their first edit on the vote page. At the most there may be one sockpuppet, otherwise the rest of them are all different members of Sunniforum. HussaynKhariq 23:55, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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