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Cambridge received a peer review by Wikipedia editors, which is now archived. It may contain ideas you can use to improve this article.

This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

RM, Cambridge → Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, No consensus to move, closed 27 October 2010 (see also additional discussion at WP:ANI)
RM, Cambridge → Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, No consensus to move, closed 1 June 2012
RM, Cambridge → ?, Not moved, closed 1 March 2023

Cambridge was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
July 15, 2011	Good article nominee	Not listed
March 21, 2012	Peer review	Reviewed
April 20, 2016	Peer review	Reviewed
August 29, 2016	Good article nominee	Not listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

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Cambridge England VS Cambridge MA: How Similar?

I think these two cities are the most similar the namesake cities could go. Both Cambridge UK and Cambridge MA have world class universities (Harvard, MIT, Cambridge), both have sorta similar populations (Cambridge MA has 119000 people in 2019 and Cambridge UK has 125k in 2011), both Cambridges have famous alumni, and both Cambridges are biotech hubs (with AstraZeneca in the UK and Moderna/Biogen in MA). Both Cambridges created major vaccines for COVID (Astra vaccine and Moderna vaccine), and Cambridge has a Pfizer lab.

Delete 'coat of arms' from the infobox

The coat of arms currently given without qualification in the infobox is not that of the city but rather that of Cambridge City Council. So (a) it is a false assertion and (b) seems to be just decoration anyway. It doesn't seen possible to annotate the link but does it even belong here? Is there any convincing reason to retain it? John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So where have you hidden the time machine?

The article purports to give date from the 2021 census before the ONS has released it. How? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:15, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 February 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 17:02, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cambridge → ?
Cambridge (disambiguation) → Cambridge

– Cambridge, England isn't WP:PRITOP. However, I'm not really a fan on "Cambridge, Cambridgeshire", so I've left it blank in this RM. And yes, I have seen the previous RMs. --- Tbf69 P • T 17:02, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Of course Cambridge (England) is the primary topic; Cambridge (Mass.) is very much an "also ran", de facto a suburb of Boston (Mass., not Lincs. - you got that one). An obvious WP:SNOW given zero evidence to support the proposal. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:07, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Either Cambridge, Cambridgeshire due to Cambridge, Gloucestershire, Cambridge, West Yorkshire and Cambridge (ward) also in England or just Cambridge, England but the city in England may be primary due to its university and the fact the Massachusetts one is named after it and while it also has world famous universities they aren't normally called "Cambridge". Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:52, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose no need to fix this, Cambridge is primary topic in both respects. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:11, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arguing against a disambiguation page? Is this a first for you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:3005:42DF:4000:C0C3:3FB2:563E:9B1B (talk) 15:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose This has been proposed repeatedly and there's a consensus not to move. I'm not aware that anything significant has changed in the status of the subject since previous discussions. If you're contending that previous discussions were flawed you'll have to come up with some actual arguments as to why Cambridge, England is not the primary topic. ----Pontificalibus 20:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
oppose per all the obvious William M. Connolley (talk) 20:57, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. It's complicated. The relevant question is whether the English city is a primary topic for the term "Cambridge". Pageviews show the University as a clear leader, with the English and Massachusetts cities neck and neck in second. Incoming link counts tell a similar story. However, the English city is usually known simply as "Cambridge" rather than "Cambridge, England" etc., whereas it is common to refer to "Cambridge, Massachusetts" and the "University of Cambridge" or variants in full. Neutral search results seem equally split between the English city and the university, with not much for Cambridge, MA or other topics. Although Cambridge, MA is less than 400 years old, that still counts as long-term significance when compared to Wikipedia's lifespan or 10Y. Considering only the cities, Cambridge, England is a primary topic by usage, but the University just sways it: "Smith went to Cambridge" usually indicates a University education rather than a city break. Certes (talk) 23:31, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- No, it is really not complicated. If someone says that they "went to Cambridge", it will be clear from context whether they are talking at about the city, the University (or the railway station). The Cambridge Five were "at" Cambridge (clearly meaning the University) rather than "in" Cambridge (for a day's sightseeing). The city contains the University, the railway station, the botanical gardens and so on. The city is the only case where "Cambridge" would be named without qualification. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. There is no primary topic here. Rreagan007 (talk) 01:39, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This Cambridge seems to be the primary topic. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:59, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - this is the best-known Cambridge by far. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 18:37, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Of course it's the primary topic. No question. An ancient city with an ancient university versus a suburb of Boston that was named after it because it too contained a university (which is not, however, named after it). -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Population density

This common metric is absent from this page - could somebody add it, please? Presumably both city and urban numbers are required, matching with population stats quoted. Lawrence18uk (talk) 04:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea! I don't know how. Perhaps this category is relevant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WPUKgeo_articles_without_population_data matt me (talk) 18:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]